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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Hebrew god of the Pre-universe without predestination

I have been writing on a predestined universe.  This is one where everything has already happened and the addition of time merely gives it the linear view which we are familiar with.
In this way, "In the beginning there was a great void" is a little vague compared to "In the beginning everything had happened but no one had applied linear time to it", but even under biblical scripture there was a god capable of putting everything into motion, i.e. there was a god capable of creating time therefore a beginning.
This is one of the strange things about the bible.  It envisions a beginning of time.  Conceptually the pre-destined universe also envisions a beginning of time.  Both start there.  As time functions on a compressed universe it lights up, but that is secondary to the concept of a beginning.
The really important stuff happens after the beginning as far as we are concerned because we are creatures of time.  Perhaps our lot in life is to be the observers for the powers that put everything in motion.  There is the question in this type of universe where observations or thoughts go. It is equally likely that we are merely a side show to the universe.
The only way to answer these questions is to go back to the "void" before the beginning, figure out what that is.  If we accept there is no "time" in the pre-universe, then everything exists in a fashion which will be difficult to quantify using what we have at our disposal.
For example, acceleration does not exist, but who is to say whether distance exists or not.  You could not move over distance over time, but that doesn't mean that distant would not exist.  In fact our equation for the relationship accepts completely the absence of energy, but more on this later.
Likewise if we accept the bible, we see that there is a "period of consideration" before go creates our universe (or starts time in it) which might indicate that there was time or a time like property in the pre-universe and our time is simply another time or a different one.
If in one of the studies/experiments of the universe in our banging fundamental particles together we create another time somewhere else, we would likely not be able to observe it since it would have to exist outside of our time.  Otherwise, it would have to interact or absorb our time, not a pleasant thought.
Many learned men reject the idea of a god, but accept readily that somehow everything can come from nothing or, in my earlier language, that everything had already happened at once and time was applied to it to make it relevant to our point of reference.
In such a situation, a god and something before god is as easy to imagine as the next thing.
In fact, the only thing which has absolutely no potential to exist is the universe which we take for granted which cannot exist because it is too complicated to exist and yet we live here every day until we die.  It is reminescent of the last scene in the first Men in Black Movie where our universe turns out to be a child's marble. However, even that is irrelevant because the existence of that universe is equally difficult to explain.
The problem with all models of the universe that don't go back to "the beginning" is that they accept something as improbable as a universe without regard to what existed immediately before the application of time.
One way of examining that pre-universe is to accept that everything has happened in which case it is a crowded place without time.  Another is to say that it is an empty place where nothing has happened or where a crucible is in place perhaps which is lit with the torch of time or the torch of our time and then burns till time runs out.
Either of these is equally unlikely from our point of view and given the difficulty of envisioning the pre-universe, both may exist at once.
One aspect of the pre-universe is fairly easy to understand.  Since there is no time, energy=mass.  In effect, this gets us back to "let there be light" because in this pre-universe the application of c^2 (the speed of light squared) is the application of time.  This rather confusing insight doesn't change the fact that in the pre-universe, wee do not have an answer to what replaces time in pre-universe and gives it an understandable point of reference.  The simplified equation does suggest that everything existed and time is just a way of "burning" through all the events.  For those of you who find this extremely difficult, ask yourselves if you see the difficulty in a stack of wood being used to heat up a pot of water with the application of a flame.  I would suggest to you that pre-fire man would find this rather startling, but would still enjoy a cup of hot coffee once he became accustomed to it.
We can believe that in the land of god, the pre-universe, we can never comprehend how things "transpire" because they do not transpire using our time and perhaps not using any time, but this is just an excuse for ignorance,  however valid it might be.  In fact, our universe is very likely pre-universe kindling, lit with the flame of time. In such an event, one can imagine the possibility that larger pieces of wood are added in order to increase the fire and that the pre-universe equivalent of oxygen is necesary to maintain the flame and that it might be removed stopping the uinverse, perhaps even freezing it at some point.
More on this later.

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