The Zeno-Socrates dialogs Chapter 3

Many of you wonder where this story stands as you read it now. Some of you may be wondering how much of it is true and how much of it not.

First, let me get some personal notes out of the way, then to the factual part of it. We'll start with the technical side of things and then we'll go to the historical side of things. Personal: This story is essentially finished, I can describe and count the chapters but I will not say there will not be a typographical correction or two. It is one of those delightful stories that wrote itself, I merely needed to take the time to type it. When I see something come out as a finished piece, it supports the ideas set out in the Einstein Hologram Universe. This includes philosophically the idea that everything happens at once without linear time and that all of our actions are predestined, even those we view as creative. If I was capable of writing something brilliant, this would be it. Were it a country song, I'd have to add a verse about the fact that it was raining the day my momma got out of prison. It is not potentially good because of my writing, but because it could incorporate everything that I have written of any consequence in a historical perspective. Alas, it isn't brilliant, but if I could write something brilliant and this would be it.

Technical: It is pretty much accepted that the concepts of Parmenides and Zeno were "meta-physical" and not "mathematical". However, very little of what they wrote is preserved, much of it is preserved in the lines of poems and these Zeno "paradoxes" that survived and are presented by Socrates. Socrates is "reporting" and his ideas of "physics" are likely very different from those of Zeno and Parmenides. These men, however, were some of the most brilliant men of their time. IT is quite likely that what they were working on was considerably more complicated than what has survived. They did not have quantum mechanics, they did not have relativity and they did not have string theory. There was only rudimentary physics. I gave them "non-linear time theory" because it is mine to give, although it was envisioned by Einstein indirectly at least and is very similar to what String Hologram theory envisions. The main problem before non-linear time theory was a failure to focus on time and attempts to stay within a dimensional framework that fell apart at small sizes, a problem not in common with Non-linear time theory where space, distance, movement, energy and matter are merely manifestations of time. In this sense, NLT is closer to Zeno’s take on reality than the others although for different reasons. Perhaps the lost work of Parmenides and Zeno was closer to Non-linear time theory than that of modern string theorists and perhaps even Einstein. Parmenides' story of how his theory of an unchanging universe exists is something out of an episode of "Ancient Aliens" and I treat it that way later in the story.

Historical: Not only are all the main characters real, but they appear in time and age approximately where they appeared here. There is even sufficient basis in history for the events described in here so great that it is could be argued, with the re-writing of history experienced even today, that it is possible that things happened the way they are described herein, with the possible exception of the ending, and who knows about the ending? Parmenides and Zeno are accepted as "lovers", but that is heresay and I treat it that way. Parmenides, Zeno, Socrates and Plato (he shows up later) studied together sequentially; Parmenides' story of acquiring knowledge of the foundation of the universe is similar to that used here (identical in some respects); there is a trial later and Socrates was actually tired, convicted and sentenced to death for not believing in the gods of Athens. Draco and Solon lived and their interaction was very similar to that given hereafter although whether they ever were actually in the same room is unknown to me. Exia is made up, but Eudoxus was an early mathematician who certainly had a grandmother. Oh, and I know nothing of ancient cheerleaders, but this was around the time of the 88th Olympiad as I understand it. Not that anyone cares. Do you care?

Zeno's paradoxes as the predecessor of all hologram theory: The Zeno-Socrates dialogs:

The Zeno-Socrates dialogs

Chapter 3

By Exia, a servant in Zeno's house and future grandmother to Eudoxus of Cnidus.

It is evening.  The soft glow of Sunset streams in through the windows that have been thrown open for the purpose.  The aged Zeno and ancient Parmenides sit at the table with a sheet of papyrus before them.

“Nothing comes from nothing.  Existnece of things are therefore  necessarily eternal.”

“I quite disagree with you.  There is no reason to believe that existence is anything other than a paradox.”

“Zeno, you must think abou this.  How coudl what is perish?  Yes it might change form, but it must exist.  And how could it come to be if it did not always exist?  If it came into being, where would it have come from?  Coming into being is thus extinguished and destruction is unknown.”

The discussion is interrupted by the entry of young Socrates, slightly inebriated by the look of him.  He is naked.

The woman from before has entered at the same time with a tray with two glasses.  Socrates grabs one of them and collapses into his favorite couch, spilling several scrolls onto the floor.  “Oh thank thee fair Rhea, you have done for me as you did for Dionysus.”

“My name is Exia,” she says.  She sets the remaining goblet before Zeno’s guest and leaves to get another.

“And what did we do to deserve this gift from the gods,” Parmenides asks of the interrupter.

“My feelings are hurt.  You were to instruct me on physics.”

“That was a discussion for this morning.”

“Oh no, you mean the light through that window is not the light of dawn?”

“Not unless the sun has decided to rise in the West or the house has been turned.”

“Truly, it is the fault of the cheerleaders.  For surely they are not virgins and they have beguiled me sorely.”

“Harrumph.  You should stick with their company and allow us our diversions.”

“Please, do not turn me down.  For my heart aches for knowledge though my head aches from my exertions.  And Pray Zeno, can you lend me a robe for the breeze from yon window of your much turned house is bringing a chill to me.”